Uny, PhD.? 科技话题“普通弹”:: 从数据到价值
从数据到价值 #002:数据交易的几个大平台:数据质押与浙江省知识产权区块链公共存证平台. ?(2022-08-05)
?【对应的视频?8分钟?https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1FN4y1577u?】
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出发点:大约一年前(2021年秋天)上海、浙江、江苏在“数据交易”领域,都推出了创新性的平台。
我们在第1弹介绍了上海数据交易所的大致。
今天第2弹,介绍在浙江的工作:
数据质押与浙江省知识产权区块链公共存证平台
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Uny,PhD(00:00:00): 大家好。科技话题普通弹。今天我们继续讲“从数据到价值”、也是当今一个比较热的一个话题。那么上一次我们的第一弹介绍了 上海数据交易所。
Uny, PhD (00:00:00:00): Hello. Science and technology is a common topic. Today we continue to talk about "From data to value," which is a hot topic today. So the last time we played, we introduced the Shanghai Data Exchange.
今天我们讲讲在浙江的工作:数据质押、全国首单。那是去年(2021年)做的事情,今年也在继续中。那么下一次呢,我们讲一下在江苏的一个“数据要素流通”平台。
Today we're talking about work in Zhejiang: data pledge, the country's first list. That's what we did last year (2021), and it's going on this year. So next time, we're talking about a “data element flow” platform in Jiangsu.
那这些大的平台。都是去年秋天、大概一年前开始的。
These big platforms. They all started last fall, about a year ago.
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[2] 全国首单基于区块链的数据知识产权质押.
?2021-09-09. 浙江省杭州市滨江区。
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[2.1] 数据质押
通过对接银行、担保机构、数据公司等多方主体,利用大数据、区块链等技术手段,采集企业生产、经营链上的各类数据,由区块链存证平台发放存证证书,将数据转变成可量化的数字资产。
Various types of data are collected from the enterprise's production and business chain, using technical means such as big data, block chains, etc., through matching banks, guarantee agencies, data companies, etc., and certificates are issued from block chain record platforms to convert the data into quantifiable digital assets.
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今天我们介绍浙江的工作。它主要是数据质押。做法是通过区块区块链、通过银行、政府、
Today we're introducing Zhejiang's work. It's mainly a data pledge. It's done through block chains, through banks, governments, etc.
Uny,PhD(00:00:50): 企业;使用科技平台等等,做成的事情。
Uny, PhD (00:00:50): Enterprise; use of science and technology platforms, etc., to do what is done.
“全国首单基于区块链的数据知识产权质押”,去年9月份,在浙江省杭州市滨江区。
“The country's first pledge of intellectual property rights based on block chain data” last September in Hangzhou, Zhejiang province.
有一个推动力是滨江区的市场监管局、知识产权有关的部门。
One of the driving forces is the Market Supervisory Authority of the Rim River Region, and the IPR-related sector.
这里对接的多方,有政府、有银行、有担保、有技术公司,再加上拥有数据的企业。
The interface is between Governments, banks, guaranteed and technology companies, and enterprises with data.
现在不管是做人工智能、是做医疗。
Now, whether it's artificial intelligence, it's medicine.
Uny,PhD(00:01:27): 做工业互联网;各行各业,它都是可以有数据的,
Uny, PhD (00:01:27) Do the industrial Internet; it's available in all walks of life.
那么技术手段呢?用大数据和区块链等等。
And what about technology? Use big data and block chains and so on.
要采集企业生产经营方面、各类数据。
Data are collected on the production and operation of enterprises.
使用区块链平台,再就政府出面,来颁发一个证书、证明这个数据的存在,等等。
The block chain platform is used, followed by a government presence to issue a certificate, prove the existence of this data, etc.
最后,它就变成数据资产,可以获得(银行)授信。
Finally, it becomes a data asset and can receive a letter of credit (bank).
[2] 全国首单基于区块链的数据知识产权质押.
?2021-09-09. 浙江省杭州市滨江区
[2.2a] 两单
浙江凡聚科技有限公司、去敏后的1500多人的多动症等症状的神经反应的数据。
将数据作为抵押,
上海银行股份有限公司(杭州滨江支行)授信100万元。
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那去年9月份这个两单,一个是浙江凡聚科技公司。它的数据是跟踪多动症的人,获得了一些神经反应的数据。
So in September of last year, one of these two items was Zhejiang Van Jum technology. Its data is for people who track ADs and get some neuroactivity data.
这类数据、我们的医疗数据。
This kind of data, our medical data.
Uny,PhD(00:02:09): 也是非常热门的一个话题,那么这次数据是企业主导,那以后的话,随着技术经济模式的改变,我们个人的数据也有望、会变成资产。
Uny, PhD (00:02:09): It's also a very popular topic, so this data is dominated by business, and then, with the change in the technology economy model, our personal data can be expected and turned into assets.
那么这家公司,就把数据作为抵押,最后是上海银行杭州滨江支行授信100万。
The company, then, took the data as collateral and ended with a letter of 1 million from the Hangzhou River branch of Shanghai Bank.
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[2] 全国首单基于区块链的数据知识产权质押.
?2021-09-09. 浙江省杭州市滨江区
[2.2b] 两单
蔚复来(浙江)科技公司、垃圾分类运营活动产生的环保测评数据。
杭州高科技融资担保有限公司(简称:杭高担)进行增信。
将数据作为抵押
杭州银行科技支行授信500万元。
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另外一家公司,是蔚富来科技公司,他们在垃圾分类方面的环保测评数据。
Another company, the U.S. Technology Company, evaluates the environmental aspects of waste classification.
它这里多一步:通过杭州高科技融资担保有限公司进行增信。
It takes more than one step: through Hangzhou High-Tech Financing Guarantee Ltd.
Uny,PhD(00:02:46): 然后把这数据作为抵押,杭州银行科技支行授信。
Uny, PhD (00:02:46): Then the data is taken as collateral, and the Hangzhou Bank's Technical Branch gives a letter.
杭州银行科技支行,创新的业务方面,在全国也是比较有名的。
The Hangzhou Bank's Science and Technology Branch, the operational aspect of innovation, is also relatively well known throughout the country.
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[2] 全国首单基于区块链的数据知识产权质押.
[2.3] 主要步骤
1? 浙江省知识产权区块链公共存证平台,接收数据。
1.1? 并同步到省知识产权研究与服务中心、省市场监管局、杭州互联网公证处、杭州互联网法院
2? 数据的托管
2.1? 杭州安恒信息技术股份有限公司的大数据中心
3? 浙江省知识产权研究与服务中心对数据链验证结果进行确认,
3.1? 并发放“数据知识产权公共存证证书”。
4? 银行等机构通过“数据知识产权公共存证证书”,
符合条件的办理质押并发放贷款。
Eligible pledges are made and loans are granted.
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主要步骤呢?第一,在浙江已经建好了的,浙江省知识产权区块链公共存证平台。区块链存证,在浙江做得也比较早的,特别是跟法院,数据打通,通过公证处,等等。
First, in Zhejiang, the public record platform for the intellectual property chain in Zhejiang province has been established.
在数据知识产权质押的工作中,这个数据平台收到(数据)以后,同步到几个单位:省知识产权研究与服务中心、省市场监管局、
In the context of the pledge of data intellectual property, this data platform has been synchronized to several units following receipt of the data: the Provincial Intellectual Property Research and Services Centre, the Provincial Market Supervisory Authority,
Uny,PhD(00:03:28): 互联网公证处、互联网法院,这些都是重要的节点。
Uny, PhD (00:03:28): Internet Notaries, Internet Courts, these are important nodes.
那么数据一旦收纳,要有一个托管的地方,杭州在这方面也是已经有基础:杭州安恒信息技术公司,它的一个中心。
Once the data is collected, there is a hosting place, and Hangzhou has a foundation in this area: Hangzhou, Inc., one of its centres.
然后一个重要的步骤,凡事需要有个证书。也是政府发挥作用。浙江省知识产权研究与服务中心,来对这个数据链,进行验证:这数据,它是一步步是怎么来的?进行确认,然后发一个证书,这个证书就叫 “数据知识产权公共存证证书”。
And then an important step is to have a certificate for everything. It's also the role of the government. Zhejiang Province Intellectual Property Research and Services Centre, to verify this data chain: how does this data come in step by step? To confirm, and then issue a certificate, which is called the "Data Intellectual Property Public Record Certificate."
那么银行得到了这个证书以后呢,再判断如果这个企业符合一定条件,那就可以贷款。
Once the bank has obtained the certificate, then it will be possible to conclude that if the enterprise meets certain conditions, then it will be able to borrow.
Uny,PhD(00:04:16): 这样,这个数据质押就成立了。那么这里的一个创新,是银行跟政府之间;是在技术手段保证的情况下的这个创新。
Uny, PhD (00:04:16): So this data pledge is set up. So one of the innovations here is between the bank and the government; it's this innovation under the guarantee of technology.
[2] 全国首单基于区块链的数据知识产权质押.
[2.4] 团体标准 《数据知识产权质押服务规程》. (2022-03-30)
起草单位:
杭州高新技术产业开发区(滨江)市场监管局、
浙江省知识产权研究与服务中心、
杭州趣链科技有限公司、
浙江大数据交易中心有限公司、
杭州高新融资担保有限公司、
杭州银行股份有限公司科技支行、
上海银行股份有限公司杭州滨江支行、
中都国脉(北京)资产评估有限公司杭州分公司。
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这几个单位在做了去年9月份做了这件首单之后,在今年3月底,发布了一个团体标准。
After doing this first list last September, at the end of March this year a group standard was issued.
我们现在也比较了解团体标准了。它是2017年《标准法》修订,增加的一个标准,门槛比较低啊,可以比较迅速地做。
We now have a better understanding of group standards. It is an amendment to the Standards Act of 2017, adding a lower threshold that can be done relatively quickly.
那么这几个单位,很多刚才也都提到了。一个,(区)市场监管局本身。
So many of these units have just been mentioned. One, the marketing authority itself.
Uny,PhD(00:04:55): 也是开发区的市场监管局。
Uny, PhD (00:04:55): It is also the Market Regulatory Authority of the Development Area.
浙江省知识产权研究与服务中心,重要节点。
Centre for Research and Services on Intellectual Property in Zhejiang Province, important nodes.
杭州趣链,是比较有名的区块链公司,提供技术。
Hangzhou Fun Chain, a relatively well-known block chain company, provides technology.
杭州大数据交易中心,这个应该是托管这个动作。
Hangzhou Big Data Exchange, this is supposed to be hosting this move.
然后呢,就是刚才提到,有担保。杭州高新融资担保有限公司。
And then, as we just mentioned, there's a guarantee. Hangzhou New Finance Guarantee Ltd.
银行参与两单,各有一个银行。杭州银行、上海银行。
Banks are involved in two separate banks.
最后还有一个资产评估公司,中都国脉(北京)资产评估有限杭州的分公司。
Finally, there is an asset assessment company, a branch of Hangzhou, which has limited asset assessment in the Central Dynasty (Beijing).
这样的话就到齐了。
That's the way it's gonna be.
[2] 全国首单基于区块链的数据知识产权质押.
[2.4] 团体标准 《数据知识产权质押服务规程》. (2022-03-30)
主要技术内容:
范围
规范性引用文件
术语和定义
基本要求
采集
脱敏
存证
存储
评估
融资
处置
Disposal
在这个团体标准中,主要的技术内容。
Within this group criterion, the main technical elements.
Uny,PhD(00:05:37): 其中跟数据有关的,我们可以看到,有
Uny, PhD (00:05:37).
采集、脱敏、存证、存储、评估、融资、处置。
Collection, desensitization, documentation, storage, assessment, financing, disposal.
这个脉络也是非常清晰的!
The pulse is very clear!
[2] 全国首单基于区块链的数据知识产权质押.
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[2.5] 数据质押中的一些难题
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所有人的真假:
数据的确权。
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那么在做这个很有意义的事情中,在我们交流当中也看到,数据有它的特点。它是无形资产的一种,比较新的种类。它跟专利也不一样,更商标也不一样,跟版权也不一样;虽然都有些共同点,特别是跟版权!
So in doing this very interesting thing, as we have seen in our exchanges, the data have its characteristics. It's a new type of intangible asset. It's not the same as patents, it's even more trademarks, it's different from copyrights; it's all in common, especially copyrights.
那么第一,所有无形资产共有的,就是一个确权的问题。刚才讲到数据链,这个链条就是数据怎么产生的、中间过了几手、为什么今天拿出这个数据的人,他是真正的所有人,他不是一个假的所有人。这些事情。
So, first of all, all intangible assets are in common, and it's a question of certainty. When we talk about the data chain, it's about how the data is generated, how many hands are in the middle, why the person who came up with the data today, he's the real owner, he's not the fake owner. These things.
Uny,PhD(00:06:24): 也不是太容易啊。这次(浙江的)工作中,有所突破。
Uny, PhD (00:06:24): It's not too easy. There's a breakthrough in this job.
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价值可能稀释:
数据交易(或数据质押)之后,同样的数据,甲方又用作其它用途,怎么监测?
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数据还有一个比较特别的地方,这点跟版权有点像,但是我们在工作当中,肯定也会发现它还是有数据特有的东西的。
There's another special part of the data, which is a little bit like copyright, but in the course of our work, we're sure to find that there's something specific to the data.
数据的价值,可能稀释。就是说,现在这个企业,这个数据抵押给银行了,那银行给我钱;那么有些约定,说这个数据就不能再用在另外一些地方。
The value of the data may be diluted. That is, the business now, the data is mortgaged to the bank, the bank gives me money; there are agreements that the data can no longer be used in other places.
但是呢,如果我这个企业真地用在另外场所、或者再去抵押一次。这个是很难监测的,这里要做一个全国范围、全球范围的一个监测,
But if I actually use it in another place, or do it again. This is hard to monitor, and there's a national, global monitoring here.
Uny,PhD(00:07:11): 那个代价也太大。所以呢,这里就有一个非常重要的、也比较难以解决的一个问题。
Uny, PhD (00:07:11): That's too much. So here's a very important and difficult question.
那这里我们现在在2022年的话,还更多是提出问题的时候。相信以后也会解决的。
So here we are now in 2022, and it's more like asking questions. I'm sure we'll figure it out later.
那么一个思路,业内人交流的时候,基本是往版权的
So the idea is, when the insider communicates, it's basically copyrighted.
Uny,PhD(00:07:43): 既有的经验,去探索。
Uny, PhD (00:07:43): Experiences available, to explore.
版权,不管是音乐,电影,等等,它也有容易复制的这个特点。
Copyright, whether music, movies, etc., also has this feature that can easily be replicated.
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好的,那我们今天就讲到这儿,这是在浙江省的数据质押,这么一个很好的、很有名的探索。
Okay, so here's what we're talking about today. It's a data pledge in Zhejiang province. It's a great, famous exploration.
【系列
[Serial series]
第1弹 视频 9分钟 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hB4y1b7rM/?
1st video https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hB4y1b7rM/?
2022/7/31 数据交易的几个大平台:上海数据交易所 从数据到价值 #001 科技话题“普通弹”
2022/7/31 Several major platforms for data transactions: Shanghai Data Exchange, from data to value #001 Science and Technology topic, "General Plays"
第1弹?文稿?3500字?https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv17849235?2022/7/31?数据交易的几个大平台:上海数据交易所?从数据到价值 #001?科技话题“普通弹”
Paper number one? 3,500? ?2022/7/31? Several major platforms for data transactions: Shanghai Data Exchange? From data to value #001?
第2弹?视频?8分钟?https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1FN4y1577u数据交易的几个大平台:数据质押与浙江省知识产权区块链公共存证平台?从数据到价值 #002?科技话题“普通弹”
2nd bullet? Video? 8 minutes? https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1FN4y1577u
第2弹?文稿?3200字?https://www.bilibili.com/read/
2022/8/5?数据交易的几个大平台:数据质押与浙江省知识产权区块链公共存证平台?从数据到价值 #002?科技话题“普通弹”
2022/8/5? Several major platforms for data transactions: Data pledge and Public Recording Platform for Intellectual Property Block Chains in Zhejiang Province? From Data to Value #002?
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